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The CEO of a $5 billion consulting business explains why she has no ambition to be a lesser version of a Big Four giant

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Francesca Lagerberg became CEO of Baker Tilly International 2 ½ years ago. Joshua Bratt/Times Media Ltd via Baker Tilly
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The Big Four professional services firms lead the accounting and advisory market globally. Deloitte, PwC, EY, and KPMG have a combined 1.5 million employees and generate billions in annual revenue, and their easily recognizable names draw in scores of eager young graduates annually.

But for all their status, the Big Four have seen a marked drop in growth rate over recent years, and their consultants have been leaving.

Bucking that downward trend in the market is Baker Tilly International, a midsize network of about 140 member firms.

Its offering of tax, advisory, and legal services generated global revenue of more than $5 billion for the year ending December 2023, an 11% increase from the previous year and a record high for the firm. It's now one of the top 10 accounting firms in the world.

For Baker Tilly, though, the goal isn't growing to the point where the Big Four becomes the Big Five, CEO Francesca Lagerberg told Business Insider.

"Am I ambitious? Yeah, very," she said. "But am I ambitious to be a lesser version of something else?"

"The Big Four super tank is an amazing organization, very successful and really good at what they do. We just operate in an environment where midsize firms excite us," she added.

Lagerberg said Baker Tilly's success was because of its great proposition, strong member firms within the network, and the moves those firms had made into bigger markets.

"It's a very good time for us. We've been able to offer what the market needed. We've been in markets where growth has continued and the kind of work that we specialize in seems to have a bit more of an ongoing level."

"In the mid-tier, where we are strongest, firms are looking for that kind of input and advice. So we've been able to offer the services they want, and there hasn't been that drop-off."

Smaller-scale growth also meant the firm didn't follow the overstaffing fallout that has afflicted bigger names.

On paper, all accounting firms like Baker Tilly appear to offer the same services, but Lagerberg, who's spent her career in professional services, said it's the culture that helps differentiate the firm. It's not just about the services you provide, but offering them in a way that clients would like to have them delivered, she said.

"It is fundamentally about the values and behaviors that we have. We have a very strong people-first approach, and we genuinely mean it," she said.

There are no strict work hours at Baker Tilly that other firms are renowned for. Instead, the company offers its employees unlimited holidays and flexible working. It's an organization whose staff actually get on with each other and that attracts like-minded clients, Lagerberg said.

Being people who others like to do business with is a "much-misunderstood part of how the world goes around," she added.

The private-equity wave

The mid-tier sector of professional services firms hasn't avoided the slowdown hitting the Big Four.

Together with economic pressures and high interest rates, the strain is helping drive a new wave of private capital investment in mid-tier accounting firms.

Firms have typically paid out profits to equity partners, who also get a vote on how the firms are run. External cash injections are divesting the control historically promised to partners and shaking up the culture at firms.

The skyline of London's business district, with several skyscrapers, viewed from across the River Thames.
Private equity houses have been injecting cash into mid-tier accounting firms.  Mike Kemp/Getty

In the US and the UK, firms such as Grant Thornton, Cooper Parry, and EisnerAmper have gone down the private-equity route. Last year, Baker Tilly US did the same, selling a majority stake to the private investment groups Hellman & Friedman and Valeas. It was the second-largest deal to be done in the sector.

PE has lots of advantages, but it isn't a silver bullet, Lagerberg said. One benefit is that it's providing an influx of capital that's necessary for firms as they evolve with technology and data.

"We used to be a really cap-light business. Now, we're a cap-heavy environment, so it's not surprising that PE is seeing growth," the Baker Tilly CEO said.

It's also bringing about a huge change in the culture that not all partners are happy about.

"A lot of partners, they've operated in an environment that's been very similar all their careers, and suddenly in comes an external stakeholder," Lagerberg said. But outside influence also brings a new rigor to firms.

"PE houses are very good at running organizations in an efficient way. I think you'll see an even stronger emphasis on the financials and looking for a return," Lagerberg added.

The reality for any business, she said, is that you can't be future-proof. In this era of instability, this is part of the reason companies keep turning to Baker Tilly.

"You will not make all the right decisions because no one quite knows where something is going to go. But you can be future fit," Lagerberg said. "How can you get yourself to a position where you're going to ride out most of it? Some things are going to be amazing opportunities. Are you ready to take them?"

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Polly Thompson is a senior reporter at Business Insider's London bureau. She covers the Big Four consulting firms, future of work trends, and the tech company Dell. Her work includes inside scoops on workplace changes, including PwC's plan to cut hiring by a third over the next three years, Deloitte's overhaul of job titles, and an internal NDA-protected project at Dell. She holds a master’s degree in international journalism from City, University of London and has been featured on CNN and NPR. Get in touch with Polly via the secure messaging app Signal (Polly_Thompson.89) or via email at pthompson@bjinnox.com. Use a personal phone and a personal data or WiFi connection.To follow Polly's coverage, click here to get an alert whenever she publishes a story.