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Salesforce CEO Marc Benioff says AI models have 'stolen' copyrighted content from media companies

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Salesforce CEO Marc Benioff speaks at the Dreamforce 2023 keynote. Salesforce
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Salesforce CEO Marc Benioff's message to companies interested in generative AI is clear: The technology can't be trusted yet. Unless his company is selling it.

AI was the resounding theme at the company's annual flagship conference, Dreamforce, which I attended in San Francisco this week. Salesforce, which makes cloud-based software for customer relationship management, billed this year's Dreamforce as "the world's largest AI event" and began the week with the announcement of its new generative AI product, Einstein 1.

Benioff spent much of the conference issuing ominous warnings about the perils of generative AI while simultaneously touting his own company's new technology as ethical and secure.

Onstage at the Yerba Buena Center for the Arts, he prodded celebrities, politicians, and business leaders — including OpenAI CEO Sam Altman — to share their concerns about the existential risks of feeding intelligent machines vast amounts of personal data before reminding the audience that Salesforce was setting the standard for handling data ethically and responsibly.

After two days of listening to this, I started to wonder how Benioff could be so sure his large language models aren't behaving as badly as everyone else's and training on copyright-protected data.

"We're not scraping the internet with our models, if that's your question," Benioff told me Wednesday afternoon.

Salesforce has "an open philosophy" regarding the development of large language models, or LLMs, Benioff said, building some on top of preexisting models and building others from scratch. For example, CodeGen, an LLM released by Salesforce in 2022, was trained from scratch using Apex, an internal programming language.

"It's inside our core system," Benioff said. "It's not being generated by the computer."

Benioff, who bought Time magazine in 2018, has a particular distaste for copyright infringement.

"As a media owner, it's a major issue, because I do go to the models, and I'll find material from Time magazine in there and go, 'Wait a minute, that's my content,'" Benioff said.

"Media companies are starting to wake up and realize a lot of their information has been stolen — probably some of yours, too," he added, giving me a pointed look.

Before I could determine whether the look was made in jest, Kathy Baxter, Salesforce's principal architect of responsible AI and tech, interjected.

Baxter said that Salesforce only uses customer data with consent and performs legal reviews before using any open-source data for AI model training.

"I'm very proud of all the models that we are creating," Baxter said. "We can be extremely transparent in that data, and you can stand by it and know that it is not copyrighted. Never."

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Ellen Thomas was an investigative reporter on Business Insider's technology desk. Her recent work focused on the data center construction boom, energy, and the economy."The True Cost of Data Centers" series won the 2025 George Polk Award for Environmental Reporting and a Best in Business honorable mention from the Society for Advancing Business Editing and Writing (SABEW). Her investigation on Amazon data centers in Virginia was honored in 2024 by the National Association of Real Estate Editors. Occasionally, public records searches lead her to work off-beat. Recent coverage includes Floyd Mayweather's financial troubles and ICE's $1 billion in warehouse purchases under former DHS Secretary Kristi Noem. Before joining Business Insider, Ellen spent five years covering retail and the beauty industry for WWD. Selected stories:Data centersAmazon built a data center empire in Northern Virginia. It's using as much energy as a major city.Data centers have become an economic powerhouse. Now they're throwing their weight around in Virginia politics. SCOOP: An on-site natural gas plant will power Stargate's first data center in TexasIn the biggest market for data centers, Big Tech flashes cash and influenceOracle got big tax breaks in Texas. Now its going back for more.ICEHere's where ICE is spending big to turn warehouses into detention centersFloyd MayweatherIRS seeks $7.3 million from Floyd MayweatherFloyd Mayweather accused in lawsuits of owing millions for luxury watches, gold, and rent on palatial apartmentMoney to blow: Inside Floyd Mayweather's lavish, debt-filled post-boxing lifeFloyd Mayweather's fitness business is on the ropes. Gym owners are punching back.Floyd Mayweather Jr. bragged about a $400 million property deal. There's just one problem. SalesforceSCOOP: Slack CEO Stewart Butterfield to exit in JanuaryLeaked document lays out Salesforce plan to hit 30% marginsBenioff v. Benioff: Inside 18 Difficult Months at SalesforceRetailUnilever bought Dollar Shave Club for $1 billion. Now, insiders — and even its own CEO — are calling the acquisition a failure. Lady Gaga's Haus Beauty launch on Amazon bombed and triggered a 'mass exodus' of talent. Now its pinning its hopes on a rebrand and Sephora debut. How a German princess and political journalist and with a powerful royal social network became the CEO of the Kardashian beauty brands