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Shopify's president, Harley Finkelstein, explains why he doesn't consider Amazon a competitor

Harley Finkelstein, Shopify
Harley Finkelstein is the president of Shopify. Courtesy of Shopify
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Shopify has been on a tear. 

The e-commerce company, known for its tools that empower other businesses to build online stores, reported strong results for the second quarter of 2021 on July 28. It grew revenue 57% year over year, reaching nearly $1.12 billion, while gross merchandise volume (GMV) — or the total sales conducted on the platform — reached $42.2 billion. That represented an increase of 40% over the second quarter of 2020. 

Now the most valuable company in Canada, Shopify has benefited from a demand for digital tools as many small businesses looked to sell their wares online for the first time because of the pandemic.

"We view our role as the global entrepreneurship company. We don't only want to help existing entrepreneurs. We want to create new entrepreneurs," Shopify President Harley Finkelstein said in a recent interview with Insider. He added that every 28 seconds, a new entrepreneur makes their first sale on Shopify.

Each year, Shopify commissions Deloitte to create a picture of the e-commerce platform's global influence. In 2020, according to the report, Shopify's merchants accounted for more than $307 billion in global economic activity, which takes into account individual merchants' GMV, employment, GDP, and other impacts, both direct and indirect. 

Finkelstein said that if Shopify were an online retailer, it would be the second-largest online retailer in the US, behind Amazon. 

But Shopify doesn't consider itself an online retailer — or a direct competitor of Amazon. 

While Amazon is great at getting essentials to customers in a quick time frame, Finkelstein said, Shopify's strength lies in helping businesses build strong brand experiences on their own websites. For example, Allbirds is one of Shopify's earliest success stories, and its products can be bought only on Allbirds.com. 

He thinks that it's possible for both types of e-commerce models to coexist, as they serve different purposes, he said. 

"I think there will be a place for many of these big marketplaces to buy commoditized products that you want to get within 24 hours," Finkelstein said.

He added: "Those are very different types of buying behavior and also very different types of objectives: Am I buying something that I want and I'm going to cherish and enjoy, or am I buying something that I need because I'm out of detergent?" 

Finkelstein said that when it came to the future of e-commerce, Shopify considered direct-to-consumer to be a far superior model to the curation you might see in a marketplace like Amazon or a more traditional department store. That's because merchants selling the products they create have more detailed information about how they work, he said, and what else a consumer might like based on their past purchases. 

DTC selling typically allows brands to charge less for products, too, since it eliminates the middleman. 

"That's not to say that there is not going to be room for curators or department stores," he said.

"But I do think that if curators and department stores want to exist in the future and stay relevant, they're going to have to add a disproportionate amount of value beyond just distribution," he added. "Having a physical store is not enough to justify it." 

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Madeline was a correspondent covering e-commerce companies including Shopify, Amazon, Temu, and Shein. She also wrote about e-commerce startups and online seller communities. She previously edited stories for the retail section. Before that, she wrote for the executive lifestyle and tech verticals, where she reported on luxury real estate, restaurants, and travel. She graduated from the University of Notre Dame with majors in American Studies and Spanish. She is based in the Northeast.Have a tip? Contact Madeline via Signal at mlstone.04. Use a personal email address and a nonwork device; here's our guide to sharing information securely.Read some of her work here:— Wealth Assistants claimed it would help its clients make money on Amazon. Clients said they 'lost everything' instead.— The DTC fraternity: In an industry known for lively events and strong online communities, women say they feel left outBlackface, booze, and blurred lines at the $2 billion tech firm Rokt— Meet 38 members of the 'Shopify Mafia' who embraced the e-commerce giant's entrepreneurial spirit and launched their own companies— Read the essay Shopify's CEO sent to managers to remind them they are a sports team, not a family. It shows the growing tension between leaders and employees in the corporate world.— Ex-Shopify and Deliverr workers say layoffs, compensation issues at Flexport capped a 15-month rollercoaster: 'Honestly a bit relieved that it's over'