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Carnival's CEO reveals the advice he would give to his 25-year-old self

Arnold Donald
Carnival Corporation CEO Arnold Donald. Lynne Sladky/Associated Press
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Since Arnold Donald became the CEO of Carnival Corp. in 2013, the company has more than doubled its annual earnings, and increased its share price by about 20% as of this writing. And even as the cruise industry has been battered by the COVID-19 pandemic, Donald is optimistic about his company's prospects for 2021

Donald said in a 2019 interview with Business Insider that he made listening to his employees and customers a priority at the beginning of his tenure. If he could give his 25-year-old self advice, he said, it would be to listen.

"I would just tell my 25-year-old self to do, hopefully, what I try to do a lot of my life, which is listen, listen, listen," he said. "You can learn from anybody and everybody.

"If you listen to the world, it will reveal itself to you. In business, if you listen to your customers or guests, they will tell you what it takes to exceed their expectations. If you listen to your employees, they will tell you how to deliver whatever that guest or customer wants in a manner where it's sustainable for the company."

Donald said his emphasis on listening has given him greater insight into customer psychology, like when he spoke with a passenger about a rival company's cruise ship. Donald asked the passenger why he liked the ship, and the passenger cited the ship's rock climbing wall and ice-skating rink. But when Donald asked if the passenger had used either, the passenger replied that he hadn't.

The exchange suggested to Donald that the passenger took pride in the mere fact of traveling on a cruise ship with desirable amenities, which made Donald realize the importance of gathering customer feedback in a way that would reveal more profound psychological insights.

"We have to ask questions in a way where we understand, psychologically, what's driving somebody," he said. "There's a deeper way of learning how to ask questions."

This story originally published in June 2019, and has been reposted. The original copy incorrectly stated that the share price of Carnival Corp. had increased by 70% between the beginning of Donald's tenure in 2013 and the end of 2018, when it should have been roughly 40%. 

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I'm a senior transportation reporter at Insider covering electric vehicles, automated-driving technology, and ride-hailing. I joined Insider in October 2017 and previously worked as an intern at the St. Louis Post-Dispatch. I graduated from Washington University in St. Louis with degrees in film and media studies and business economics. You can follow me on Twitter @matousekmark and email me at mmatousek@bjinnox.com If you have sensitive information you'd like to share and don't feel comfortable sending it to my work email or via a direct-message on Twitter, you can contact me on the encrypted messaging app Signal at 646-768-4712 or email my encrypted address at mmatousek@protonmail.com. Here's some of my work: Uber insiders are divided over Dara Khosrowshahi's leadership, with some worried the company has become 'boring' and 'confused' about its future Nikola founder Trevor Milton convinced the world he was the next Elon Musk. Insiders say a history of lies brought the billionaire down. 17 hours a day, 7 days a week: Cruise-ship workers describe the grueling conditions they face on the job We talked to 42 insiders about Tesla's factory of the future. They revealed the corners cut to hit ambitious production targets. 70-hour weeks and 'WTF' emails: 42 employees reveal the frenzy of working at Tesla under the 'cult' of Elon Musk Tesla is transforming how cars are sold. But 27 insiders say the company's methods mean slashed pay and living under the constant threat of getting laid off. Uber insiders reveal how DoorDash stole its delivery crown and left Eats in the dust Uber's trying no-meeting Mondays to give employees a break from 'tiring' back-to-back meetings, a leaked email reveals Leaked email reveals a Tesla VP expressed concern about employees coming to work with COVID-19 symptoms Leaked document reveals Nikola flip-flopped on whether it would spend any of its $17 million of customer deposits to fund the Nikola One Insiders reveal Alibaba's Jack Ma sought a partnership with Canoo to build electric delivery vans, but the deal fell flat because the startup couldn't meet his aggressive timeline Leaked email from Elon Musk reveals the Model Y is experiencing production 'challenges' while passing the Model 3 as the top priority at Tesla's US car factory Leaked email and audio reveal Carnival-owned Holland America has struggled to give refunds to some customers Leaked documents reveal the severance packages laid off Carnival UK workers will receive Inside Tesla's overhaul plan for its sales and delivery teams to solve one of its toughest customer challenges